# Building the Future of Web Development: The Journey of Jaspr

> Kilian Schulte on creating Jaspr, the Dart web framework behind the official Flutter and Dart sites, and bringing Flutter's model to the web, on Very Good Engineering.

- Source: https://verygood.ventures/podcasts/kilian-schulte-jaspr-web-development/
- Published: 2026-05-08
- Speakers: Kilian Schulte
- Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUjtLvsFt-U

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Jorge Coca talks with Kilian Schulte, the Flutter developer who created Jaspr, a web framework for building websites in Dart. Kilian explains the core idea: Jaspr lets developers compose pages from components that look and feel like Flutter widgets, so it reads a lot like Flutter but works slightly differently. That familiarity makes it a natural bridge for Flutter developers moving into web work without having to write JavaScript.

Kilian recounts starting the project nearly four years ago, after noticing there was no real Dart-native option for building websites, and prototyping the first version over a weekend. He credits the Dart community with much of Jaspr's momentum, pointing to an early Reddit post whose strong response motivated him to keep going and helped shape the framework around real user needs.

A pivotal moment came when the Flutter and Dart teams approached him to rebuild their official websites with Jaspr, validating it for production-scale work. Kilian and Jorge discuss the features he built with Flutter developers in mind, including Markdown content generation and server-side rendering, and his guiding principle throughout: never abstract away the underlying concepts of the web, so developers still understand the platform they are building on.